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:::Germany likewise began as a confederation of kingdoms. But as it consolidated, it changed the nomenclature, demoting the kingdoms to duchies and the like, and reserving ''Reich'' only for what used to be a confederation. The Germans now apply "Länder'' to what are somewhat equivalent to the old kingdoms. The U.S. never made that change in nomenclature.
 
:::Then there is the European union of '''states''' with a new, proposed Constitution (France will have other chances to approve one). If approved, this proposed government promises to evolve into a consolidated government like in the US, and expect its constituent countries to be still called "states." Some of these states are still kingdoms. Don't forget the Commonwealth of Independent '''States''' with a common government in Moscow. Historically, some of them were also kingdoms.
 
:::Alright, I just wrote a small tome because I find the topic intriguing, and I wish to emphasize that our states are not really shires (counties) or marks (frontiers). I also think that it is fitting to reflect the American concept of '''divided sovereignty''' correctly in the terminology. This unique concept is either a confusing relic of the past, or it is an intriguing witness of how American government works in practice. Moreover, "ríce'' preserves the conceptual paradox and it accurately reflects the real political debate over the "big federal government," no matter what side anybody falls on.
 
:::Thanks, everyone, for the fascinating discussion!
:::--[[User:Walda|Walda]] 18:32, 28 Sér 2005 (UTC)
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