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If I were to move all the pages under the category "plega" (with yogh) to "indryhtegamen", would you be fine with that? Willcume ic þec on míne brúcendsídan! 03:25, 11 Ēastermōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

There's more involved than simply renaming the categories they're in, as there's the category's interwiki, various subcategories that are under Pleȝa, and things like that. Since more than once term is acceptable, I'd see it as a pointless effort (even if pleȝa isnt the primary word we choose to use, it may still make sense to others in the future, and pleȝa does suggest recreational activity). — ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ 12:01, 11 Ēastermōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Castle imageĀdihtan

I noticed you added an image of a castle to the main page, but with all due respect, I'm not convinced what is described as "early 19th century romanticism in style" is entirely suitable for the time period Old English was spoken. I don't mean to offend you, but it might be something to consider. Hayden120 10:30, 14 Ēastermōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

I'd searched for English castles of the time period, but very few were in good condition. Either way, I figure since we're reviving the language, and not the past, then the time period itself doesnt matter (for instance, it could have been a modern soccer stadium or whatnot). — ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ (ȝespreċ) 13:48, 14 Ēastermōnaþ 2010 (UTC)


I did not quite understand your question, but the "flog" part of flogbóltur comes from "flying". Which is also the case for the english word volley from voler "to fly". br. Quackor 11:51, 14 Ēastermōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Excellent, thanks. — ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ (ȝespreċ) 13:49, 14 Ēastermōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Betweocspræcisc gewrita hlencaĀdihtan

Nu hæbbe ic hi to heora Niwengliscum efenweorþum geseted - þa searuþrælas don þæt gebitt to donne. Willcume ic þec on míne brúcendsídan! 00:21, 16 Ēastermōnaþ 2010 (UTC)


Ic seaw his weorce. Seldon hæfþ he her geadihted, ac ealc is wilcuma.

Sceactæfl is word þe we aþohton of urum aganum myndum. Ic næfde gefunden chess in Bosworth and Toller, ac æfter þisre edwende seaw ic þæt word bleó-bord is ealdlic and seo boc secgð ðe hit meaht beon chessboard.

Gif man hit hycgþ, bleobord is deaflic for þæm fagum borde hwæron plegþ man þone game.

Hogweard 18:56, 17 Ēastermōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

"Fruman" wið "Glēsing"Ādihtan

Where did you get fruman from? I can find nothing exact for "references", but a gloss (glēsing) is an explanatory text, which seems to fit the bill. I'm happy to be told I'm wrong though. Hogweard 21:08, 19 Ēastermōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Re:in the newsĀdihtan

Not exactly sure why you saw good to drop me that... But whatever. The whole thing is a bit of a pity, really. Of course, there are worse things one can do than deface the Bible. Not sure that legal action was the best line of action... I doubt it will improve much. Willcume ic þec on míne brúcendsídan! 03:20, 24 Ēastermōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Hēafodburg / Hēafodstōl floccasĀdihtan

I have just spotted that we have two rival floccas; Flocc:Hēafodburg and Flocc:Hēafodstōl. The latter is more popular. The former is divided into Hēafodburg in Europan and Hēafodburg in American (which I just created for Hafana).

Both hēafodburg and hēafodstōl are authentic words. Which do you prefer? I'm leaning towards moving all the hēafodburg ones into hēafodstōl but diving it up as I had started to do for "Flocc:Hēafodburg".

Hogweard 18:57, 30 Ēastermōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Hreðer / Hriðer / HryðerĀdihtan

Aye, sometimes my spelling is awful. I meant hriðer, or hryðer. "Hreðer" - I must have had something distracting on my mind! Hogweard 20:14, 4 Þrimilcemōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Widsiþ / WidsiðĀdihtan

On the original manuscript the name appears as Ƿidsið. Hogweard 21:16, 9 Þrimilcemōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Seaxe / SeaxanĀdihtan

I had to change the "Seaxan" Flocc. It is good to have it, but Seaxe is the correct plural. (There is no singular.) Hogweard 12:37, 17 Þrimilcemōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Huh. I could have sworn I'd seen -an used for plural. It's all good, wont be much to correct. — ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ (ᚷᛖᛋᛈᚱᛖᚳ) 18:21, 17 Þrimilcemōnaþ 2010 (UTC)


Ic næbbe þone landscite būton wordum, ac þu ceannst bewritan hine, awendan hine and hine ahlæstan. Gif þu ne ceannst hū, ic wille loan þæræt. Hogweard 12:15, 18 Þrimilcemōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

NW Bysen reĀdihtan

Eala, ic hæbbe efne gebrocen þæt bysen for niwcumerum. Nis me oferlice hefig gif hit aga oþþe belife. (Þeah ic þence þæt hit is god). Willcume ic þec on míne brúcendsídan! 04:45, 19 Þrimilcemōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Geānede CynerīceĀdihtan

Eala, ic hycge þe we sculon awendon þone naman. Noðylæs, þa tu word sindon an and man ne scylle aspirian ælc leaf hwæron hine liþ. For þara GRA, geānlǣht is til, forþæm þe manig wæron geanlæhted in anum.

Beforan þe wyrhtan we anig þing,

(I've run out of shades of meaning) - the two words mean the same and if we make a change in an article name, that does not mean changing every reference thoughout the Wiki. If there is a subtle difference in meaning between geaned and geanlæht, we cannot know it for sure. The passages quoted in Bosworth and Toller (or at least the on-line version) would suggest possibly geaned used for one thing becoming one thing, and geanlæht for many things becoming united, so the UK can be geaned and the USA geanlæht!

(Having said that, I made the UAE "geaned", but I don't think it hurts. In OE texts different words are used for concepts, so Englisc seems not to define things encyclopaedically.)

Before changing the UK article's name, we can put this on its Talk page and see if anyone has more insight into the words.

Hogweard 21:51, 22 Þrimilcemōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Geography wordsĀdihtan

There is (at long last) a set of Geography words here.

They come from Bosworth and Toller etc.

Hogweard 20:39, 9 Sēremōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Sweet, I'll make note/use of it. Thanks. — ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ (ᚷᛖᛋᛈᚱᛖᚳ) 23:32, 9 Sēremōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

5th Century Europe mapĀdihtan

The 5th Century Europe map is now available in a blank format on Wikimedia Commons.

The neatest way to use it is to have a Bysen which adds the tribal names on top of it, and which can have the names as links too, like the one at Australisc rīce#Rice and Landscipas. I will also have a think about how it can be done.

Hogweard 13:52, 2 Mǣdmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Sweet. I know you gotta define the coordinates on the map by picture area, I just need to find an example to copy from and modify it. — ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ (ᚷᛖᛋᛈᚱᛖᚳ) 14:49, 2 Mǣdmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)


Hi! I think you guys should nominate at least one other person to be an admin also. James was the more active of the two current admins from what I can see. After you get admins here, feel free to contact me if you need help doing things or getting used to what needs doing. Also, the global sysops are all very experienced admins on multiple very active wikis and can help you out also. I'll be sticking around until you get local admins just working through the admin backlogs and tidying up a bit. Do you have any pages that need deleting? Or if you know of anything else that needs doing that only an admin can do, let me know. Cheers! fr33kman -simpleWP- 00:28, 28 Mǣdmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)


Actually, I was under the impression that when yogh was used in OE times, it did not only represent a "y" sound, but also guttural voiced plosive and guttural voiced stop ("g"). Therefore? the yogh-wynn versions should have it as such, and possibly a fourth (called "yogh(and)c-with-a-dot-above-it") version which implements the modern orthographic distinction of palatal-guttural, which was dialect and time specific in OE, should be established. Willcume ic þec on míne brúcendsídan! 08:11, 29 Mǣdmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Ah, so those "yogh-wynn" articles are really about palatalization and gutturals... Oh well, that's well enough with me (and with everyone, until someone comes along and does actually want to use as authentic OE orthography as possible... should be a while). By the way, you should sign your name to the part of that admin vote thing which asks for consent from the person being nominated (just above the "support" bit). Wes hal. Willcume ic þec on míne brúcendsídan! 06:49, 30 Mǣdmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)


Hello. I have promoted you to administrator after your successfull RfA & the request at meta. As this is a small wiki, your sysop bit will expire in 3 months as of today. You can of course ask us to prolong it at requests for permissions on meta few days before it's going to expire. Please remember to translate the interface at translatewiki only and to upload images on commons. Should you have any questions please feel free to contact me or another steward at meta. Congratulations and best regards. --Dferg 12:43, 1 Wēodmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations on a successful RFA! It is quite common for a small wiki admin to be appointed to a brief period. You can get it extended over and over by asking a steward (as Dferg said). You could also point out that there are two permanent admins and that you guys are merely replacing them; assuming you hold a RFDA. The next thing I'd recommend doing in emailing the two current admins asking if they plan on returning and if not could they ask at requests for permission for their flags to be removed themselves. If not or no reply, you can run a local request for deadminship and post the results on meta as I did for your RFA. I'll still be around (as are the stewards or other global sysops). Oh, and btw: you have some work to do admin! :) fr33kman -simpleWP- 18:28, 1 Wēodmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)
Woohoo! (dances around) — ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ (ᚷᛖᛋᛈᚱᛖᚳ) 19:53, 1 Wēodmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)
:D Well, I think you can at least feel good about having the WMF record for longest open RFA! LOL :) Get Hogweard to sign his nomination and then you can list his RFA on m:SRP. I'll look in from time to time, but if you need any help just ask! m:User:Jamesofur is a global sysop I know well who is happy to help, and en:User:Brian is great sysop also. The 3 month thing is just so the stewards are able to keep an eye on who has sysop where and why etc. Talk to you later and good luck! fr33kman -simpleWP- 20:00, 1 Wēodmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)
Excellent, thanks for your help. — ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ (ᚷᛖᛋᛈᚱᛖᚳ) 20:03, 1 Wēodmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)
Let me be the firstsecond to congratulate you! (How is one to say "congratulate" in OE, anyway?) Willcume ic þec on míne brúcendsídan! 05:17, 2 Wēodmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)


Bidde þē tō hƿeorfenne þæt bysen "Taxobox" sƿā þæt hit hæbbe þæt ƿord "stefn" tō "phylum". Ēac, bidde þē tō unbeorȝienne þone tramet, for þǣm þe hit nis nytt ne nȳdmicel tō beorȝienne hit (ne ȝīet, læstum). Willcume ic þec on míne brúcendsídan! 05:13, 4 Wēodmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Þonce þē. Wāst þū þæt þū canst swingan alt+f tō bringenne forþ sēctōl tō þǣm tramete (meahtlīce on Mac...)?

Re:translate wikiĀdihtan

Actually... I am/was standardizing everything (the standard being full yogh and wynn (since it is a lie to say that such is un-authentic - and it is OE were on here), and commands, as in Modern German, Dutch, Spanish, English, etc., as opposed to "to edit page"). I take it you don't like it. Why? The writing is fine, and the commands are what there were in Englisc (that the infinitive has also become a general way of instructing in many modern languages, is relevant perhaps to modern languages?). I also did a few (minor) grammatical corrections and also (slightly more-than-minor) stylistic alterations/corrections. Please respond (and in case you are interested in not doing any work, I would (have) finish(ed) the job off so that it was consistent throughout (which would be more than could be said in the pre-my-edits state of things)).    Ƿes hāl!     01:01, 7 Wēodmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I'd made the infinitive the form of all phrases there, "Þās sīdan ādihtan", and whatnot. Some of the changes you'd done ended up putting them into a present tense. Usually, besides using infinitive, the object should come first in that instance, as it's the object which is receiving emphasis (plus it'd help keep the verb in its always-second placing). — ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ (ᚷᛖᛋᛈᚱᛖᚳ) 01:37, 7 Wēodmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)
Okay, I guess I'm not too big on the infinitive/imperative thing, but, concerning writing, the only way I can see to reconcile disagreements is go authentic (since no-one can argue well against the authenticity of authenticity - unless we wanna go something like agnostic about authenticity, and I don't). I do not believe we should be using the system messages, which everyone must face, to apply various modern, non-authentic letter conventions (such as beginners' writing for ease of reading, or g and w for ease of typing). And I am more than happy to personally take that workload on to make sure it is all consistent ȝ and ƿ (if needs be, I can give my word not to not change word order where historically okay).
   Ƿes hāl!     02:02, 7 Wēodmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)
Yeah I wasnt a fan of g/w being used either. You suggesting we go a ȝ/g/ƿ route, as is used now ("ȝēa ƿē gāþ") or full on ȝ for all instances of g? ("ȝēa ƿē ȝāþ") — ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ (ᚷᛖᛋᛈᚱᛖᚳ) 02:21, 7 Wēodmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)
I mean fully authentic (long marks (rare but authentic), ȝ and ƿ, not g and w, not ċ, k only when surrounding letters suggest "ċ" but is not, in fact, (so "Ƿikipǣdia")).    Ƿes hāl!     03:10, 7 Wēodmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

How's it going?Ādihtan

Just thought I'd drop by and see how things are going with the mop. I notice Hogweard still has not accepted his RFA nomination. Any reason why not? You may want to nominate Gottistgut or he/she can nominate themselves. It's a good idea to have at least two active admins, for coverage and oversight purposes. fr33kman -simpleWP- 02:26, 10 Wēodmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Hogweard might be busy as of late, I havent seen him overly active. No idea though (as I dont talk to any of these folks outside of this realm). — ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ (ᚷᛖᛋᛈᚱᛖᚳ) 04:10, 10 Wēodmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Help with the Anglo-Saxon Wikibooks's sloganĀdihtan

Hello Wōdenhelm. We're currently collecting project names and slogans as a part of a logo cleanup and we could use some help with the Anglo-Saxon Wikibooks. Would you mind providing a translation of the following phrases for the logo/confirming what's already there?

  • Wikibooks = Wicibēc
  • Open books for an open world (or "Free books for a free world" if that's easier) = ?

Please put your translation on my Meta-Wiki talk page. Thanks in advance for your help! Cbrown1023 mōtung 17:58, 10 Wēodmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your help, Wōdenhelm! After you mentioned that there actually is no "W" in Anglo-Saxon, I realized that you should probably check the other slogans and project names too to make sure they're accurate:
  • Ƿicipǣdia (should be Ƿikipǣdia)
  • Sēo frēo Ƿīsdōmbōc (correct)
  • Ƿiciƿordbēc (should be Ƿikiƿordbōc, singular)
  • Sēo frēo ƿordbōc (correct)
  • Ƿicicƿide (should be Ƿikicƿide)
  • Ƿikifruma (correct)
  • þe freo library (should be Þæt frēo bōchord)
Thanks again for your help, I really appreciate it. Cbrown1023 mōtung 00:22, 11 Wēodmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)
Corrections have been added, see above in parenthesis. — ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ (ᚷᛖᛋᛈᚱᛖᚳ) 02:08, 11 Wēodmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)
Thanks! Cbrown1023 mōtung 17:46, 12 Wēodmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)


Hey, sorry. Gimmie 30ish minutes, and I'll try to explain myself. Gotta go have dinner.    Ƿes hāl!     07:28, 28 Wēodmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

I'm back. Hope you didn't get your hopes up...
I was using a rather complete/full and literal method of date telling, as I have seen being used in OE (the necessity of the words "dæȝ" and "ȝēar" in written forms is arguably not necessary, but the use of cases to show that one time is within another, at least, is good (why? because we don't say "a third he got blown off in the battle"; we rather say "a third of him got blown off during the battle". In the same way, not "(the) third January nineteen ninety-four", but "(the) third (day) of January in/of (the) (year) nineteen ninety-four")).
I also added "ȝēar/gēar" (and "dæȝ/dæg") to all appropriate pages (since we use "getæl/ȝetæl" with the number itself to distinguish that the article is about the number itself... why not year with the year to distinguish that the articles is about the year itself?).
I used grammatical suffixes on ordinal numbers to be consistent (usage of grammatical suffixes on not full-written numbers (Roman numerals in the case of OE times) did not actually happen in OE at all); I did do that at all because I saw that one such number, which was meant to be equivalent to "(year)'s" (e.g. "1640's"), had an "-e" grammatical suffix to indicate plural, which was necessary to distinguish it from singular. Therefore I decided to keep the theme of grammatical suffixes consistent throughout.
I'll be working on not-about-date articles 'till feedback comes. Thanks.    Ƿes hāl!     08:23, 28 Wēodmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)
I see. Well, I did think my intentions were pretty clear (mostly, but especially the clean-up of untagged pages)... But, okay, planning and revision... My plan was:
  • Systematically go through and tag untagged pages (+grammatical corrections where appropriate, and the filling-out of date names & place names)
  • Systematically go through again and make sure everything is in Englisc (translate where not Englisc)
  • Start writing pages in full, untagged ȝƿ. Make sure not to let things get all loose again...

   Ƿes hāl!     01:11, 29 Wēodmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

I've finished undoing the lot.    Ƿes hāl!     02:01, 29 Wēodmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Organization is definitely needed, but I have an idea for a more simplified system, I just need to work it out in my head. — ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ (ᚷᛖᛋᛈᚱᛖᚳ) 05:06, 29 Wēodmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Re:Translate wikiĀdihtan

You complained to me about this weeks ago ("Translatewiki/re:translate wiki"); it is nothing new (I haven't touched Wikimedia on translatewiki.net for weeks - only FreeCol, so that you could not bring to me any new complaints). As far as I saw, you went and undid it all (or at least, you did a large amount of undoings at the time). If it was not revised, then you missed it. For your sake, I'll go undo it.    Ƿes hāl!     05:41, 3 Hāligmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Did "Ȝief ȝīet ān mā dǣl" back to "mearcunge ēacian" and "sēo stǣr" (which was a translation of "view history") back to "stǣr".    Ƿes hāl!     07:27, 3 Hāligmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)
If it's to be "view history" then it should be "Stǣr sēon", as previously mentioned. Otherwise thank you. — ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ (ᚷᛖᛋᛈᚱᛖᚳ) 10:17, 3 Hāligmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Inactive sysopsĀdihtan

Hi!! I have listed the discussion about the inactive sysop onto meta for a steward to deal with. I think the time period is long enough for objections to have been raised. ttyl :) fr33kman -simpleWP- 01:28, 9 Hāligmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

The two inactive admins have now been removed. I have informed them both on their talk pages. Hope all is going well, see you later! :) fr33kman -simpleWP- 02:54, 10 Hāligmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)
Excellent, thanks. — ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ (ᚷᛖᛋᛈᚱᛖᚳ) 14:41, 10 Hāligmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Translation requestĀdihtan

Please, could you translate the following article?

The Book of Mormon is a sacred text of the Latter Day Saint movement. It was first published in March 1830 by Joseph Smith, Jr. as The Book of Mormon: An Account Written by the Hand of Mormon upon Plates Taken from the Plates of Nephi. According to Smith's account, and also according to the book's narrative, the Book of Mormon was originally written in otherwise unknown characters referred to as "reformed Egyptian" engraved on golden plates.

Thanks for your help.

If you want to translate any article onto Asturian, Catalan, Galician, Mirandese, Occitan or Spanish, ask me please. --Jeneme 15:13, 25 Hāligmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Just passing byĀdihtan

How have things been going since I went off? I can't stop long; things to do, and I still haven't finished writing that book. Hogweard 12:29, 29 Hāligmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Ah, didnt know you were doing a book, good stuff. I got admin, so I can swat vandals quickly, gonna fill in some flight-related articles. Also began working on Appalachian English related things elsewhere; perhaps in a few years, the 20 million or so of us who speak it natively, will get our own Wikipedia.

Sample text:

Appalachian English is a common naim fer the Suthern Midland daaleck of American English. This heer daaleck is aspoagen aplenny raun the Cenchral en Suthern Appalachian Mauntn, parts o the Eastern Unaated Staits, naimly in north Georgia, northwestern Sauth Carolaana, suthern West Virginia, sauthwestern Virginia, suthern Ohaar, eastern Kentucky, th' Upper Potomac en Shenandoah Valleys of Virginia en West Virginia, western Marrilan, east Tennessee, western Nor Carolaana, en Northeastern Alabama.

Hit's a daaleck distinck from Suthern American English, en hit gots moor in common wo the Northern Midland daaleck o Pennsylvanyer en Northern West Virginia than the Suthern daaleck. Whaal most o this erya laas within Appalachia as defaand by th' Appalachian Regional Commission, Appalachian English aint the daaleck o th' entaar region the Commission defaans as Appalachia. Th' Appalachian daaleck is rhoatic en gots a distinct phonology, morphology, syntax, en lexicon. Hit's mostly oral but gen also be faun in wraatin.

Admin on the other ang: projects?Ādihtan

Have you thought about posting a notice on the other ang: projects asking if there are any objections to you being admin on those. If after a few days no one has objected then a steward can grant you admin on those also so you can clean up, etc... Hope all is going well! :) fr33kman -simpleWP- 02:10, 30 Hāligmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea. I'm rarely active in the others, admittedly, but perhaps that could act as motivation for me to enliven them. Thanks for checking in too, all's going well here. — ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ (ᚷᛖᛋᛈᚱᛖᚳ) 02:23, 30 Hāligmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)
Okay, so since you want to go ahead, what you need to do is put a notice on all the ang: sites and wait perhaps 5 days. The notice must be posted in the most visible place (ie: village pump, etc...) After that you go to meta and ask a steward to promote you pointing them to your (hopefully, unopposed) notice of intent to become an admin on those local projects. A steward will then decide and promote you. All the best! :) fr33kman -simpleWP- 23:29, 10 Winterfylleþ 2010 (UTC)

Request for Help, pleaseĀdihtan

Greetings Wōdenhelm,

Could you kindly help me transliterate this article into the Anglo-Saxon Runic alphabet? please.

Your help would be very Gratefully Appreciated, Thankyou.

(If you want your favourite article(s) to be translated into the Chinese language, I would be glad to help you.) --Jose77 00:51, 24 Winterfylleþ 2010 (UTC)

Temporary permissions expiredĀdihtan

Hello Wōdenhelm. Your temporary sysop permissions that you requested on this wiki have expired. If you want you can reaply for the tools again. Best regards, Dferg 15:11, 3 Blōtmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

To get it back, all you need to do is post a notice on the RFA page and if there are no objections after about 72 hours ask a steward to promote you again. In the mean time the global sysops or stewards can help with admin duties. All the best. fr33kman -simpleWP- 01:31, 6 Blōtmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)
Excellent, thank you. — ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ (ᚷᛖᛋᛈᚱᛖᚳ) 01:40, 6 Blōtmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)
You've been made an admin for 6 months this time. Congrats and Cheerio fr33kman -simpleWP- 16:29, 20 Blōtmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)
Fela þancas (many thanks) — ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ (ᚷᛖᛋᛈᚱᛖᚳ) 22:59, 20 Blōtmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)


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Best regards, --@lestaty discuţie 12:53, 20 Blōtmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Be þǣmĀdihtan

Ȝēa, þoncie ic þē. Ic hæbbe þæt ȝeseƿen. Mīnne naman hæbbe ic on þǣm "oppose" dǣle aƿriten. (Mīn reccunȝ þe ic brūce on eallum ƿikium hāteþ "Gott wisst".) Ic ȝēomorie ȝif sēo lēosunȝ þæs ƿikies spēde (ic ƿæs efne ƿrītende on ƿikibōcum rihte ǣr ic oncnēoƿ þæt mann hæfde foreseted þæt þæt ƿiki forloren sīe).    Ƿes hāl!     05:42, 24 Gēolmōnaþ 2010 (UTC)

Ymb Dave DobbynĀdihtan

Hi, I do believe that the "rock" in "rock (music)" (and "rock and roll (music)") refers to movement (in which case "ƿeolc" is quite appropriate), rather than minerals (the word is grouped under the same section as "rock (movement)" and not "rock (mineral)" in the Oxford English dictionary). Not to say that "hlōþ" is at all inappropriate, but I don't really see any need to exclude these other words which seem equally as appropriate (all having the meaning of a group of people) (although both "hlōþ" and "trēpe" appear to have been used in mainly military reference when in the sense of a group of people).
Even if the word "rock (music)" were to refer to the mineral sense (which, as said before, I am quite certain it did not), there was actually the (rare) usage of the word "rocc" (which one might then consider more appropriate to usage because it bears similarity to so many modern words for "rock (music)") in Old English (only, to my knowledge, in the compound "stānrocc", though). Also, according to Oxford English dictionary, the Modern English word "rock (motion)" actually came from an Old English word (which is not actually attested to my knowledge until the Middle English period, suggesting that it was either a rare word, or a borrowing from Norse (quite possible)).
Sorry for the wordiness.
Þonce ic þē.
Ƿes hāl.

   Ƿes hāl!     05:09, 24 Se Æfterra Gēola 2011 (UTC)

Rīd and ƿealc, ƿer, gea! Hogweard 17:34, 11 Solmōnaþ 2011 (UTC)

Please you could translate en:Podolsk in Anglo-Saxon? Naturally if you have available time!Ādihtan

Good day to you! please, could you translate in Anglo-Saxon the article about this city in Russia? Meanwhile I thank you in advance :)--Переход Артур 11:00, 11 Solmōnaþ 2011 (UTC)

A few pages that need deletingĀdihtan

Hi Wodenhelm, hope all is going well. Whilst doing xwiki deletions I noticed a few pages that have been tagged for deletion for a little while. I thought I'd point them out to you prior to deleting them myself. See you later! :) fr33kman -simpleWP- 15:30, 5 Hrēþmōnaþ 2011 (UTC)

Doneᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ (ᚷᛖᛋᛈᚱᛖᚳ) 23:42, 5 Hrēþmōnaþ 2011 (UTC)


Do you help with translating FreeCol into Anglo-Saxon? It's nearly at 60% but from the three user pages linked to at the supported languages page, it looks like only god knows/god is good is involved in doing the translation. Nickshanks 12:22, 13 Ēastermōnaþ 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I am meant to be working on that. I haven't done it for a while. I'll start again today.    Ƿes hāl!     21:22, 13 Ēastermōnaþ 2011 (UTC)

Proposed closure of our WicipædiaĀdihtan

I see from today's Heafodside Motung that there is a plan to delete the whole of ang:; our Wicipædia - see Gesprec:Hēafodsīde#Proposals for closing projects/Closure of Old English Wikipedia. It is not a foregone conclusion, but a strong tide is leading that way. It would take a great deal of diplomacy and reason to prevent it.

If the OE Wicipædia is wiped, is there enough interest to float it off independently? I dropped off the Wikipedia projects some time ago and just pop back on occasion, but to see all that beautiful material lost at a keystroke is too much to bear.

If the hangman is really at the door, might the database be obtainable to be kept safe and perhaps reused elsewhere, would you think? Unless the Wikipedia database is openly available it would require negotiation, but not now as the request for it would suggest that ang: accepts it can safely float off with no need to keep it on Wikimedia.

It is possible and not too difficult to run an independent wiki: not on a wiki farm but really independent. The MediaWiki software used by Wikipedia and its stable-mates is free to download from MediaWiki. I have an independent wiki myself, set up and running using that same software and appropriate extensions, although the technical wizardry had to be bought in. Pictures can still be got from Wikimedia Commons without uploading them (I have blocked all uploads to mine to discourage spam).

Independent wikis are spammed viciously by spamdexers and have to be patrolled closely, though some protection can be built in with a blacklist of forbidden phrases.

This is a thought I leave with you.

Hogweard 21:46, 4 Mǣdmōnaþ 2011 (UTC)

I've found this, which leads to this. I'll try and see what can be done. wiki-site.com could be a solution, if we're unable to run our own server. Then of course there's Wikia as well (which, admittedly, is an eye-sore). — ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ (ᚷᛖᛋᛈᚱᛖᚳ) 23:12, 4 Mǣdmōnaþ 2011 (UTC)
I've found and downloaded the article database dump from here (the one with bold text), which can then be uploaded to another Wiki. I'll still need to learn the process of that, if it's any different from uploading any other file. — ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ (ᚷᛖᛋᛈᚱᛖᚳ) 01:41, 7 Mǣdmōnaþ 2011 (UTC)
We will have to see what comes of it, but if we are kicked off Wikipedia then we know it is possible, thanks to your research, to rescue the work done.
If it comes to it, I would recommend starting an independent site unless there is a very good wikifarm out there, but wikifarms generally need only be basic as there is no money in in really. Wikisite has its uses, but it offers sites running on just basic MediaWiki and does not have extensions, not even the parser function extension ({{#if: etc) so most of the templates will not work. I have found it slow on occasion too, though they have at least cured the spam problem. My model would be Wikishire, as of course it would be since I seem to live there. As an independent site it has been able to upload a good set of extensions (some that not even WP has). It does have its spam problems, though the technical wizard behind it has just boosted the spam filter: careful programming of a spam filter ought to cut malcious edits down dramatically.
Let's hope we don't need it. Hogweard 23:31, 8 Mǣdmōnaþ 2011 (UTC)


Hi, I'm very interested in creating phrasebooks in ancient languages (adapting them to our reality or not adapting). A friend and I have already created several phrasebook chapters in Gotisc sprǣc and in Old East Slavic; here are examples: Gothic, Old East Slavic. Could you suggest somebody who would be interested in doing the same thing in Old English, or maybe this kind of material already exists? Thanks! Andriei


Could you choose one of articles: Swēoland and Sƿēoland and replace other with redirect? Malarz pl (talk) 06:36, 11 Winterfylleþ 2012 (UTC)


Se nama þæs trametes ("ægwyrt") mǣnþ "dandelion". Ic þence þæt se nama scolde wesan "aubergine". Hwæt þencest þu? Talk:Ǣȝƿyrt PiRSquared17 (talk) 15:54, 24 Gēolmōnaþ 2012 (UTC)

Hmm... Ǣȝplante?   Wodenhelm (Ȝesprec)   22:20, 11 Mǣdmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

Automated conversion of Old English ScriptsĀdihtan

Hi Wōdenhelm/ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ ,

How did you implement the automated runic-latin conversion system? It looks really cool and I wish to have a similar system implemented on Hakka Wikipedia (ie. Chinese character to Romanized orthography. There are 3,000 most commonly used chinese characters which are used in 99% of modern mainstream media today). There is a chinese character-->romanized Hakka dictionary however it can only be searched word by word rather than entire pages.

Can you show me how you implemented such a conversion system? --DaveZ122 (talk) 12:06, 29 Sēremōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

You can blame me for this. User:PiRSquared17/spellingstyle.js. I would not recommend using it for thousands of conversions in its current form. Try a server-side solution perhaps? PiRSquared17 (talk) 21:42, 29 Sēremōnaþ 2013 (UTC)
Could you show me how to try a server-side solution?
The Hakka Wikipedia users would need that existing system plus the conversion from chinese characters to Romanized Hakka.
ie. They would require:
1. Traditional Chinese characters <--> Simplified chinese characters (This converts both ways and currently exists on Chinese Wikipedia but needs to be implemented on Hakka Wikipedia)
2. Traditional and Simplified Chinese characters --> Romanized Hakka. (not yet in existence)
They will not need to have a Romanized Hakka --> Traditional and/or Simplified Chinese characters
because it is not practical to do so.

--DaveZ122 (talk) 05:38, 30 Sēremōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

My idea would be to adapt the existing method for Traditional Chinese (etc) for Hakka; changing the target values. I'm sure it would take much work though. Is any portion of Google Translate available to make use of?   Wodenhelm (Ȝesprec)   22:20, 11 Mǣdmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Stylistic and font optionsĀdihtan

Please review and give comments. PiRSquared17 (talk) 02:55, 1 Hāligmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)


Hello, I would just like to point out to you that the usual process to deal with vandals here is a temporary block (that is a warning). On a better note, if you find yourself with spare time on your hands, there are very many ways to use it constructively, such as: Contributing well to Wikipedia (or some other Wikimedia project), learning software developing, contributing to some other F/OSS project (such as LibreOffice), doing a workout, learning a new language, picking up rubbish off the side of the street, learning some other useful skill, etc. Wes hāl.    Ƿes hāl!     21:53, 11 Winterfylleþ 2013 (UTC)

Also, if you want your vote against my adminship actually counted, you may wish to do so here.    Ƿes hāl!     22:26, 11 Winterfylleþ 2013 (UTC)
25px   Wodenhelm (Ȝesprec)   00:03, 12 Winterfylleþ 2013 (UTC)

Niƿlicu ƿord teohhungaĀdihtan


Actually, I didn't eliminate it; it's at Wikipǣdiamōtung:Nīwlicu word teohhunga/N–Z, but for whatever reason, it's inaccessible when it's set to Old English and just throws an error.

Someone did file a bug report (here); I'm just not touching the page at all till they work everything out.

Now, I believe I didn't get to updating links and redirects, and so I guess I'll get to that now.


Espreon (talk) 01:31, 16 Gēolmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, yesterday it just tried to create a listed item instead of a redirect to a page that didn't exist. (IIRC).   Wodenhelm (Ȝesprec)   03:19, 17 Gēolmōnaþ 2013 (UTC)

Eye of OdinĀdihtan

I can't find a web address for 'Eye of Odin' nor any recent mention of it on the web. Might it have closed? Short of flying to Reykjavik with a camera (beyond even my usual range for photoexpeditions) I can't find a way to back you up on the article. (I've just been reading a list of restaurants in the city, and it's made me hungry for singed sheep's head and rotted shark!) Hogweard (talk) 16:56, 25 Mǣdmōnaþ 2014 (UTC)

When writing it, I felt its notability lies within its story of cultural preservation. Topics on this Wiki, naturally, will be more obscure as compared to That One Major Wiki, but perhaps "subject-related qualification" lets it slide though.   Wodenhelm (Ȝesprec)   03:01, 26 Mǣdmōnaþ 2014 (UTC)
I agree. I'd just like to bulk it up and reference it. Hogweard (talk) 12:52, 26 Mǣdmōnaþ 2014 (UTC)

You've stated that ang.wikipedia notability works differently to en.wikipedia. Fair enough, but what criteria/rules does ang.wikipedia use, if any? Your argument is currently no different from "because I say so". Personally I'd have thought that seeing as you are the author of the article you have a big conflict of interest in deciding whether or not it is deleted. Do conflict of interest guidelines apply here? Cheers. Delusion23 (talk) 20:02, 26 Mǣdmōnaþ 2014 (UTC)

I'm agreeing with Wodenhelm on this one, if Eye of Odin is extant or did what it said it would do, namely being a museum/restaurant themed on Old Norse mythology. ang is an academic exercise, encouraging the study of Old English and it does this not so much with dry academia but personal interest. The study of Old Norse culture is very relevant to the study of Old English and Anglo-Saxon culture, and if a thing appears to be notable in that context, it is noteworthy. We can in that way take in things deemed too obscure for en.
We are small and liberal in our requirements. There must be some limits presumably - we don't have anything really daft like Bus routes in London or Telephone area name changes - but otherwise we are constrained only by our imaginations, and the language. Hogweard (talk) 23:00, 27 Mǣdmōnaþ 2014 (UTC)

Wes get hal WōdenhelmĀdihtan

I recently made a page about Düsseldorf in Old English and I want to know if I did it correctly. I don't know much about Old English grammar and I treat the Language like Germanized Engish but I made sure that I was using the right words for the translation. Also wouldn't Düsseldorf be Dysselðorp not Dysselþorp although I do believe thorn and Eth can be used interchangeably. Can C and K be used interchangeably for spelling?

~~Wario Toad 32~~

OE TextĀdihtan

Hey, I am writing an OE text, and wanted to run some ideas by you. You can find me on skype, blackkdark. --Timoði Pætricus Snīðer (mōtung) 02:46, 30 Se Æfterra Gēola 2017 (UTC)


Where are you? I was wondering why this wiki uses "of" rather than possessives for "Heretoga" titles. Seems awfully Middle. Then I realised you hadn't edited since 2015. :-( Yngvadottir (mōtung) 20:18, 8 Solmōnaþ 2019 (UTC)